Forecast Discussions from the National Wether Service
AND The Storm Prediction Center
December 9 and December 8, 2003

(RETURN)

AREA WEATHER SUMMARY
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HASTINGS NE
552 PM CST TUE DEC 9 2003

THE STORM THAT BROUGHT A WINTRY MIX OF WEATHER TO THE CENTRAL PLAINS
WAS CENTERED OVER SOUTHWEST MISSOURI LATE TUESDAY.  THE STORM IS
FORECAST TO TRACK RAPIDLY INTO THE OHIO RIVER VALLEY TONIGHT AND
WEDNESDAY.  IN ITS WAKE THE STORM LEFT 4 TO 8 INCHES OF NEW SNOW
ACROSS THE AREAS AROUND SUPERIOR NEBRASKA...AND FROM AROUND MANKATO
TO OSBORNE IN NORTH CENTRAL KANSAS.  OTHERWISE...SNOWFALL
ACCUMULATIONS ACROSS CENTRAL NEBRASKA AND NORTH CENTRAL KANSAS
AVERAGED BETWEEN 1 TO 3 INCHES OF SNOW.

AS THE STORM TRACKS NORTHEAST...SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW...FREEZING
RAIN AND RAIN CHANGING TO SNOW WILL PLAGUE MUCH OF IOWA AND
MISSOURI OVERNIGHT AND INTO THE FIRST PART OF THE DAY WEDNESDAY.
A BLIZZARD WARNING COVERS MUCH OF CENTRAL IOWA TONIGHT...WHILE WINTER
STORM WARNINGS ARE IN EFFECT FOR MUCH OF THE REST OF IOWA AND A LARGE
PART OF WESTERN MISSOURI.  TO THE WEST...DECREASING WINDS AND
INCREASING COLD IS ON TAP FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE CENTRAL PLAINS.

WEDNESDAY SHOWS THE STORM EXITING OUR REGION WHICH WILL ALLOW HIGH
PRESSURE TO TAKE OVER BRIEFLY.  THIS WILL PROVIDE MOST LOCATIONS WITH
A MOSTLY SUNNY TO PARTLY CLOUDY SKY DURING THE DAY.

TONIGHTS LOW TEMPERATURES ARE FORECAST TO RANGE FROM THE SINGLE
DIGITS ACROSS WYOMING AND NORTHERN SOUTH DAKOTA...TO THE 40S IN
SOUTHEAST MISSOURI.  WEDNESDAYS HIGHS WILL RANGE FROM AROUND 10
DEGREES IN NORTHEAST SOUTH DAKOTA...TO THE MIDDLE 30S TO MIDDLE 40S
ACROSS EASTERN COLORADO AND MISSOURI.
$$
LEW
 


AREA WEATHER SUMMARY
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OMAHA/VALLEY NE
338 PM CST TUE DEC 9 2003

A STORM SYSTEM OVER SOUTHWEST MISSOURI WILL TRACK NORTHEAST INTO 
CENTRAL ILLINOIS BY WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON.  SNOW OVER MUCH OF EASTERN 
NEBRASKA...WESTERN IOWA AND SOUTHERN MINNESOTA WILL GRADUALLY TAPER 
TO FLURRIES TONIGHT AS THE STORM MOVES EAST.  STRONG NORTH WINDS 
WILL ALSO CREATE AREAS OF BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW. RAIN OVER 
PORTIONS OF EASTERN IOWA AND NORTHERN MISSOURI WILL CHANGE TO SNOW 
THIS EVENING...WITH A BRIEF PERIOD OF FREEZING RAIN OR SLEET 
POSSIBLE.  A VARIETY OF WINTER WEATHER WARNINGS AND ADVISORIES ARE 
POSTED ACROSS THE REGION TONIGHT.   

PARTLY CLOUDY SKIES ARE EXPECTED FOR WEDNESDAY...EXCEPT EASTERN IOWA 
AND EASTERN MISSOURI WHERE PRECIPITATION MAY LINGER.  

TEMPERATURES TONIGHT WILL RANGE FROM THE SINGLE DIGITS ABOVE ZERO 
OVER WESTERN NEBRASKA TO THE LOWER AND MID 20S OVER NORTHERN 
MISSOURI.  HIGHS ON WEDNESDAY WILL BE IN THE MID 20S TO MID 30S. 

$$

KING/DDN



 

NEBRASKA WEATHER SUMMARY
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OMAHA/VALLEY NE
325 PM CST TUE DEC 9 2003

A WINTER STORM WAS MOVING THROUGH EASTERN NEBRASKA THIS 
AFTERNOON...WITH SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW REPORTED.  HOWEVER...CLEARING 
SKIES WERE FOUND OVER CENTRAL AND WESTERN NEBRASKA.  AS OF 3 PM...5 
INCHES OF SNOW WAS REPORTED AT TECUMSEH...WITH 1 TO 4 INCHES COMMON 
OVER MUCH OF EAST CENTRAL AND SOUTHEAST NEBRASKA.  THE SNOW WAS 
STILL FALLING...WITH MORE ACCUMULATION EXPECTED.  

TEMPERATURES AT 3 PM RANGED FROM 19 IN COLUMBUS...TO 35 IN MCCOOK.  
MOST LOCATIONS IN THE EAST WERE IN THE 20S...WITH LOWER 30S REPORTED 
ACROSS THE WEST.  

GUSTY NORTHWEST WINDS WERE CAUSING BLOWING SNOW AND REDUCING 
VISIBILITY IN EASTERN NEBRASKA.  WINDS WERE GUSTING AS HIGH AS 41 
MPH IN BEATRICE...WITH GUSTS OF 20 TO 30 MPH ACROSS MUCH OF THE 
STATE.  VISIBILITIES WERE 1/4 MILE FROM SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW IN 
OMAHA AND LINCOLN.  

$$

DDN

 
 


 SHORT TERM FORECAST
   NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OMAHA/VALLEY NE
   1137 AM CST TUE DEC 9 2003

   IAZ043-055-056-NEZ034-044-045-050>053-065-066-078-091845-
   BURT-BUTLER-DODGE-DOUGLAS-HARRISON IA-LANCASTER-MONONA IA-SALINE-
   SARPY-SAUNDERS-SEWARD-SHELBY IA-WASHINGTON-
   INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...BELLEVUE...BLAIR...CRETE...FREMONT...
   HARLAN...LINCOLN...OMAHA...ONAWA...SEWARD...TEKAMAH
   1137 AM CST TUE DEC 9 2003

   .NOW...

   ...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT UNTIL MIDNIGHT...
   THE SNOW WILL CONTINUE TO ACCUMULATE THROUGH MID AFTERNOON. TOTAL
   SNOW AMOUNTS FROM 3 TO 5 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE. BRISK NORTH WINDS WILL
   CAUSE BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW. VISIBILITIES MAY BE REDUCED TO LESS
   THAN HALF A MILE AT TIMES.
 

WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY

   URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
   NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OMAHA/VALLEY NE
   915 AM CST TUE DEC 9 2003

   .A STRONG WEATHER DISTURBANCE WILL AFFECT EASTERN NEBRASKA AND
   SOUTHWEST IOWA INTO TONIGHT.  A WINTER STORM WARNING IS IN EFFECT
   FOR THE AREA GENERALLY ALONG AND SOUTHEAST OF A LINE FROM FAIRBURY
   TO PLATTSMOUTH AND OAKLAND IOWA.

   A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IS IN EFFECT FOR THE AREA NORTHWEST OF
   THE WINTER STORM WARNING.  THE ADVISORY IS IN EFFECT FOR TODAY AND
   THIS EVENING FOR THE COMMUNITIES OF OMAHA...LINCOLN...SEWARD...
   DAVID CITY...FREMONT...BLAIR...TEKAMAH...HARLAN IOWA AND ONAWA
   IOWA.  A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IS ALSO IN EFFECT FOR TODAY ACROSS
   NORTHEAST NEBRASKA INCLUDING COLUMBUS...NORFOLK...NELIGH...
   HARTINGTON...WAYNE AND WEST POINT.
 

   HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK
   NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OMAHA/VALLEY NE
   1052 AM CST TUE DEC 9 2003

   IAZ043-055-056-NEZ034-043>045-050>053-065-066-078-092345-
   BURT-BUTLER-COLFAX-DODGE-DOUGLAS-HARRISON IA-LANCASTER-MONONA IA-
   SALINE-SARPY-SAUNDERS-SEWARD-SHELBY IA-WASHINGTON-
   1052 AM CST TUE DEC 9 2003

   THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR PARTS OF EASTERN NEBRASKA AND
   SOUTHWEST IOWA.

   .DAY ONE...THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT

   SNOW WILL BE WIDESPREAD ACROSS THE AREA THIS AFTERNOON AND THROUGH
   MIDNIGHT. SNOW COULD BE MODERATE TO HEAVY AT TIMES.  BRISK NORTH
   WINDS WILL CREATE BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW.  A WINTER WEATHER
   ADVISORY IS IN EFFECT. SNOWFALL FROM AROUND 3 TO 5 INCHES IS
   POSSIBLE BY MIDNIGHT.

   PERSONS TRAVELING IN EASTERN NEBRASKA AND SOUTHWEST IOWA ARE URGED
   TO DRIVE WITH EXTRA CAUTION.

000
                        AWUS43 KOAX 091602
                        AWSOMA

AREA WEATHER SUMMARY
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OMAHA/VALLEY NE
1000 AM CST TUE DEC 9 2003

LOW PRESSURE WILL STRENGTHEN OVER OKLAHOMA TODAY...THEN TRACK NORTHEAST ACROSS SOUTHERN MISSOURI INTO CENTRAL ILLINOIS TONIGHT.  THIS STORM WILL LAY DOWN A WIDE SWATH OF PRECIPITATION AS FAR NORTH AS SOUTHERN SOUTH DAKOTA AND CENTRAL MINNESOTA.  DRIZZLE  AND RAIN WILL CHANGE TO FREEZING RAIN...SLEET...AND SNOW FROM CENTRAL KANSAS AND NORTHERN MISSOURI ACROSS SOUTHEAST NEBRASKA AND MUCH OF IOWA TODAY.  SNOW ONLY IS EXPECTED FARTHER NORTH FROM CENTRAL NEBRASKA INTO SOUTH DAKOTA AND MINNESOTA.  SNOW MAY BECOME  HEAVY THIS AFTERNOON INTO TONIGHT FROM AREAS OF NORTHEAST KANSAS
AND SOUTHEAST NEBRASKA INTO NORTHWEST IOWA AND MINNESOTA.  STRONG 
NORTH WINDS WILL PREVAIL BEHIND THE LOW...CAUSING SOME BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW.  A VARIETY OF WINTER WEATHER WARNINGS AND ADVISORIES ARE IN EFFECT AROUND THE REGION INTO TONIGHT.

TEMPERATURES TODAY WILL BE NEARLY STEADY IN THE 20S AND 30S...EXCEPT FOR MUCH MILDER 40S AND 50S IN MISSOURI.  LOW TEMPERATURES TONIGHT WILL RANGE FROM PLUS SINGLE DIGITS IN SOUTH DAKOTA AND NORTHWEST NEBRASKA...TO THE 20S FROM SOUTHEAST KANSAS AND MISSOURI  INTO SOUTHEAST IOWA.

POLLACK/KLEMM



AREA WEATHER SUMMARY
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OMAHA/VALLEY NE
1000 AM CST TUE DEC 9 2003

LOW PRESSURE WILL STRENGTHEN OVER OKLAHOMA TODAY...THEN TRACK
NORTHEAST ACROSS SOUTHERN MISSOURI INTO CENTRAL ILLINOIS TONIGHT. 
THIS STORM WILL LAY DOWN A WIDE SWATH OF PRECIPITATION AS FAR
NORTH AS SOUTHERN SOUTH DAKOTA AND CENTRAL MINNESOTA.  DRIZZLE
AND RAIN WILL CHANGE TO FREEZING RAIN...SLEET...AND SNOW FROM 
CENTRAL KANSAS AND NORTHERN MISSOURI ACROSS SOUTHEAST NEBRASKA
AND MUCH OF IOWA TODAY.  SNOW ONLY IS EXPECTED FARTHER NORTH FROM 
CENTRAL NEBRASKA INTO SOUTH DAKOTA AND MINNESOTA.  SNOW MAY BECOME 
HEAVY THIS AFTERNOON INTO TONIGHT FROM AREAS OF NORTHEAST KANSAS
AND SOUTHEAST NEBRASKA INTO NORTHWEST IOWA AND MINNESOTA.  STRONG 
NORTH WINDS WILL PREVAIL BEHIND THE LOW...CAUSING SOME BLOWING AND 
DRIFTING SNOW.  A VARIETY OF WINTER WEATHER WARNINGS AND ADVISORIES 
ARE IN EFFECT AROUND THE REGION INTO TONIGHT.

TEMPERATURES TODAY WILL BE NEARLY STEADY IN THE 20S AND 30S...
EXCEPT FOR MUCH MILDER 40S AND 50S IN MISSOURI.  LOW TEMPERATURES 
TONIGHT WILL RANGE FROM PLUS SINGLE DIGITS IN SOUTH DAKOTA AND 
NORTHWEST NEBRASKA...TO THE 20S FROM SOUTHEAST KANSAS AND MISSOURI
INTO SOUTHEAST IOWA.

$$
POLLACK/KLEMM


AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OMAHA/VALLEY NE...UPDATED
935 AM CST TUE DEC 9 2003

.DISCUSSION...
WE HAVE UPDATED CURRENT PRODUCTS THIS MORNING TO JUST SIMPLIFY THE 
AMOUNT OF ONGOING HEADLINES.  APPEARS THE RAIN/FREEZING RAIN TO SNOW 
CHANGE OVER IS TAKING PLACE AS THE MID LEVEL DRY LAYER GETS 
SATURATED ALLOWING ICE CRYSTALS TO FALL INTO THE GENERALLY BELOW 
FREEZING LOW LAYER.  ALSO MADE A SMALL ADJUSTMENT TO THE WARNING 
AREA TO GIVE IT A MORE SOUTHWEST TO NORTHEAST ORIENTATION. 
OTHERWISE...WILL HAVE TO GET A BETTER LOOK AT NEW MODELS BEFORE 
MAKING ANY OTHER ADJUSTMENTS TO ONGOING FORECAST.

KING

.PREVIOUS DISCUSSION

WINTER STORM IN THE PROCESS OF WINDING UP THIS MORNING WITH INITIAL 
BAND OF SNOW MOVING ACROSS THE FAR NORTHWEST PORTION OF THE CWA LATE 
LAST NIGHT. THIS BAND HAS LIFTED NORTH INTO SOUTH DAKOTA WITH 
UPSTREAM AREA OF SNOW OVER NORTH CENTRAL NEBRASKA WEAKENING. NEXT 
BAND OF PRECIP MOVING ACROSS SOUTH CENTRAL NEBRASKA AND SHOULD 
SPREAD INTO THE CWA THIS MORNING. HAVE GENERALLY TRENDED SNOWFALL 
FROM 1 TO 3 NORTH TO 4 TO 8 SOUTH...WHICH IS A LITTLE SHIFT TO THE 
SOUTH FROM WWE GRAPHIC BASED ON SURFACE LOW TRACK. MAIN DYNAMICS 
MOVE ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST PORTION OF THE AREA THIS AFTERNOON AND 
EXPECT MAIN ACCUMULATIONS DURING THIS TIME. LITTLE CHANGE TO 
REMAINDER OF FORECAST WITH ADDITIONAL WAVES STILL INDICATED BY 
MODELS TO TRACK ACROSS THE PLAINS THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEK.

&&

.OAX...WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
NE...WINTER STORM WARNING THROUGH MIDNIGHT TONIGHT
NEZ067-068-088>093
WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY TODAY
NEZ011-012-015>018-030>033-042
WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY THROUGH MIDNIGHT
NEZ034-043>045-050>053-065-066-078
IA....WINTER STORM WARNING THROUGH MIDNIGHT
IAZ069-079-080-090-091
WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY THROUGH MIDNIGHT
IAZ043-055-056
 
 

KING
 

SOUTH CENTRAL NEBRASKA/NORTH CENTRAL KANSAS FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HASTINGS NE
430 AM CST TUE DEC 9 2003

.DISCUSSION...WILL BE BRIEF THIS MORNING WITH FORECAST CONCERN 
WINTER WEATHER TODAY. ETA/GFS IN BETTER AGREEMENT THAN 24 HOURS AGO 
WITH EVOLUTION AND TRACK OF UPPER TROF AND SURFACE...THOUGH 
DIFFERENCED IN BOTH TIMING AND TRACK STILL EVIDENT...AND NEITHER HAS 
BEEN STELLAR WITH THEIR QPF DEPICTION. BIGGEST QUESTION THAT REMAINS 
IS HOW MUCH SNOW AND WHERE. FORCING AND LIFT ARE QUITE IMPRESSIVE 
WITH THIS SYSTEM...AND MOISTURE AVAILABILITY CERTAINLY NOT A 
QUESTION. EXPECTING GENERALLY AMOUNTS OF 3-5 INCHES ACROSS THE 
CWA...BUT POTENTIAL FOR FOR BANDED PRECIP FOR ANOTHER FEW HOURS 
ACROSS THE SE COUNTIES...AND FORECAST POSITION OF DEFORMATION ZONE 
LATER THIS MORNING INTO THIS AFTERNOON SUGGESTS POSSIBILITY OF 
LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS IN KS AND EXTREME SE NEB COUNTIES. FOR THESE 
AND COLLABORATIVE REASONS...WILL UPGRADE THE ADVISORY TO A WARNING 
IN THIS AREA...WITH THE REMAINING CWA CONTINUING IN AN ADVISORY. 
COMPOUNDING THE SNOWFALL WILL BE NORTH WINDS SUSTAINED AT 20 TO 30 
MPH...WITH GUSTS UP TO 40 MPH. CONSIDERABLE BLOWING AND DRIFTING 
SNOW IS LIKELY...AND WILL CONTINUE TO WORD AS SUCH IN FORECAST.

SNOW SHOULD QUICKLY COME TO AN END FROM WEST TO EAST LATE THIS 
AFTERNOON AS THE SURFACE LOW LIFTS INTO THE MISSOURI RIVER VALLEY 
AND THE UPPER TROF AXIS MOVES ACROSS THE PLAINS.

REMAINDER OF FORECAST LOOKS GREAT WITH ONLY MINOR CHANGES 
MADE...PRIMARILY TO TEMPERATURES. 

&&

.GID WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
NE...WINTER STORM WARNING TODAY WEBSTER...NUCKOLLS...THAYER COUNTIES.
  ...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY TODAY ALL REMAINING NEBRASKA COUNTIES.
KS...WINTER STORM WARNING ALL KANSAS COUNTIES TODAY.



Storm Prediction Center

MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 2585
   NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
   1026 AM CST TUE DEC 09 2003

   AREAS AFFECTED...ERN KS / SE NEB / WRN IA / FAR NW MO

   CONCERNING...WINTER MIXED PRECIPITATION 

   VALID 091626Z - 092130Z

   BOUTS OF HEAVY SNOW WITH RATES OF 1.0-1.5 IN/HR WILL CONTINUE TO
   INTENSIFY AND SPREAD E/NE THROUGH CNTRL KS/SE NEB INTO WRN IA DURING
   THE AFTERNOON. EAST OF THE HEAVY SNOW AXIS...MIX OF FREEZING
   RAIN/SLEET WILL PERSIST ACROSS PORTIONS OF ERN KS THROUGH 21Z...AND
   POSSIBLY SPREAD INTO SW IA/FAR NW MO.

   GIVEN STRONG BAROCLINIC ZONE ACROSS THE REGION AND PERSISTENT
   DEFORMATION BAND/ISENTROPIC ASCENT...INCREASING/STRONG MID LEVEL
   FRONTOGENETICAL COMPONENT /600-750 MB LAYER/ AND PROXIMITY OF EPV
   REDUCTION ZONE SUGGEST FURTHER POTENTIAL FOR INCREASED SNOWFALL
   ENHANCEMENT/FOCUSED MESOSCALE BANDING THROUGH THE AFTERNOON ACROSS
   CNTRL KS/FAR SE NEB INTO WRN IA -- NAMELY ALONG/NW OF A SLN-BIE-AIO
   LINE.

   EAST OF THE AFOREMENTIONED AREA...12Z ETA/RUC POINT FORECAST
   SOUNDINGS AND P-TYPE ALGORITHMS SUGGEST CORRIDOR OF FREEZING
   RAIN/SLEET WILL GRADUALLY SPREAD EASTWARD ACROSS ERN KS DURING THE
   AFTERNOON...AND POSSIBLY AS FAR NE AS SW IA/FAR NW MO BY 21Z...WITH
   HOURLY LIQUID EQUIVALENTS OF 0.05-0.10 IN/HR OR GREATER.

   ..GUYER.. 12/09/2003
 

   ATTN...WFO...DMX...EAX...FSD...OAX...TOP...ICT...GID...DDC...

   40969746 42589525 41289394 39459523 37339625 38079965



AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OMAHA/VALLEY NE...UPDATED
1010 PM CST MON DEC 8 2003

.UPDATE...
KNOX...CEDAR AND ANTELOPE COUNTIES HAVE BEEN UPGRADED TO A WARNING
FOR THE REST OF TONIGHT AND TUESDAY MORNING.  VISIBILITIES WERE DOWN
TO A HALF MILE E OF NIOBRARA AND NIOBRARA HAD PICKED UP AN INCH IN
THE LAST HOUR.  EXPECT SNOW BAND TO SHIFT E WITH TIME AND WITH
CONTINUED FRONTOGENESIS.  SOME CONCERN THAT BETTER UVV WILL LIFT
JUST N OF THE WARNING AREA...HOWEVER...SNOW COMBINED WITH NORTH
WINDS OF 20 TO 30 MPH AND BLOWING SNOW...SHOULD RESULT IN DANGEROUS
CONDITIONS.

$$

.PREVIOUS DISCUSSION...
MAIN FORECAST ISSUES CONTINUE TO SURROUND HOW TO HANDLE UPCOMING
WINTER WEATHER EVENT TONIGHT INTO TUESDAY NIGHT.

12Z ETA/GFS HAVE COME INTO A BIT BETTER AGREEMENT...THOUGH THEY
STILL HAVE SUBTLE DIFFERENCES.  GENERALLY THE HPC PREFERRED SOLUTION
CONTINUES TO BE THE GFS...SO WILL TEND TO GO A BIT CLOSER TO ITS
SOLUTION.

CURRENT PRECIP AREA OVER NORTHERN NEBRASKA SHOULD BE REINFORCED THIS
EVENING AS GOOD ISENTENTROPIC LIFT AT 295K CONTINUES.  THIS IS THEN
SHUT OFF LATE TONIGHT/EARLY TUESDAY MORNING...SO THINK MUCH OF THE
ACCUMULATING SNOW OVER NORTHEAST NEBRASKA WILL END TUESDAY MORNING.
FOR NOW WILL CONTINUE WITH A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR NORTHEAST
NEBRASKA WITH 3 TO 6 INCHES OF SNOW POSSIBLE.

IN THE CENTRAL PART OF THE AREA...HAVE SOME CONCERN THAT IT WILL
MISS OUT ON THE BEST ISENTROPIC LIFT TO THE NORTH...AND THE
DEFORMATION ZONE WHICH SETS UP FURTHER SOUTH.  HAVE OPTED TO GO WITH
LESSER TOTALS IN THIS AREA SINCE THE LIFT LOOKS A BIT MORE LIMITED.
GENERALLY THINK 2-4 INCHES LOOKS REASONABLE WITH SOME BLOWING AND
DRIFTING POSSIBLE AS NORTH WINDS INCREASE TO 20 TO 30 MPH.

ACROSS THE SOUTH...THIS AREA WILL BE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF THE
DEFORMATION AXIS...THOUGH THE STRONGEST LIFT LOOKS TO SET UP EVEN
FURTHER SOUTH INTO MISSOURI AND KANSAS.  THE WINTRY PRECIP ALSO
LOOKS TO HOLD OFF UNTIL TUESDAY IN THIS AREA...SO THINK THE PLAN FOR
NOW IS TO KEEP A WATCH ACROSS THE FAR SOUTH FOR THE POTENTIAL OF
HEAVIER SNOW (POSSIBLY UP TO 6 INCHES) AND A POTENTIAL MIX OF WINTER
WEATHER TYPES BEFORE THE COLDER AIR MOVES IN.

ANOTHER SHORTWAVE IS EXPECTED TO MOVE THROUGH THE PLAINS
THURDAY...AND CURRENT LOW POPS IN THE FORECAST COVER THIS WELL.
ANOTHER SYSTEM IS NOW ALSO PICKED UP BY THE GFS FOR FRIDAY INTO
EARLY SATURDAY...AND HAVE INTRODUCED A SNOW CHANCE IN THE GRIDS.

&&

.OAX...WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
NE...WINTER STORM WARNING TONIGHT AND TUESDAY MORNING NEZ011-012-016
WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY TONIGHT AND TUESDAY MORNING FOR
NEZ015>-017-018-030>033-042
WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY LATE TONIGHT AND TUESDAY FOR
NEZ034-043>045-050>053-065-066-078
WINTER STORM WATCH TUESDAY AND TUESDAY NIGHT FOR
NEZ067-068-088>093
IA....WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY LATE TONIGHT AND TUESDAY FOR
IAZ043-055-056-069
WINTER STORM WATCH TUEDAY AND TUESDAY NIGHT FOR
IAZ079-080-090-091
&&

$$

KING/ZAPOTOCNY

481
FXUS63 KGID 090305
AFDGRI

SOUTH CENTRAL NEBRASKA/NORTH CENTRAL KANSAS FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HASTINGS NE
905 PM CST MON DEC 8 2003

.UPDATE...SFC CYCLOGENESIS ON QUE OVR TX PANHANDLE THIS EVENING AND
COLD FRONT WELL SOUTH INTO KS. SOME CONCERN YET THAT A BIT OF FZDZ
MAY FORM YET UNDERNEATH MID LVL DRY SLOT OVR SE CWA AND BEFORE
ARRIVAL OF MID LVL MSTR SURGE COMING OUT OF CO/W KS...GIVEN OVERALL
INCREASING LG SCALE ASCENT TAKING PLACE IN ASSOCN/W EMERGING SRN
ROCKIES UPR TROF. COMP REF RTNS BEARING THIS OUT SE CWA.
SEEDER/FEEDER MECHANISM SHOULD TAKE OVER AS MID LVL WAA INDUCED
PRECIP BAND OVER WRN KS ARRIVES INTO CWA BTWN 06-08Z. OTHER AREA TO
WATCH IS INTENSE BANDED SNOW OVR SANDHILLS IN ASSOCN/W FRAGMENTED MID
LVL DEFORMATION ZONE AND INTENSE MID LVL FRONTOGENESIS. THIS FTR
CONTINUES SHIFTING SEWD AS OVERALL MID LVL TROF CONTINUES TO
DEEPEN/ELONGATE AND WILL BEAR WATCHING W/PRIMARY SNOW ACCUMLATION
TIED TO IT TUESDAY MORNING. UNKNOWN AT THIS POINT IS HOW ACTIVITY OVR
WRN KS EVOLVES AND ITS IMPACT HERE OVERNIGHT. CURRENT ADVISORY AND
SNOW AMOUNTS ON TRACK BUT WILL SHIFT BULK OF ACCUMLATION TO TUE AM.
ZONE UPDATE OUT BY 930 PM.

&&
T

.PREV DISCUSSION...SFC FRONT THRU THIS MORNING WITH LARGE
AREA OF LOW PRESSURE SETTING UP ACROSS ERN CO...NERN NM...SWRN KS
AND INTO NWRN OK NRN TX PANHANDLE. STRONG UPR TROF CURRENTLY WORKING
INTO WRN SPINE OF THE ROCKIES WITH MID TROF JUST STARTING TO PUSH E
OF THE MOUNTAINS AND INTO THE HIGH PLAINS. STRONGEST LOW TO MID LVL
FORCING CURRENTLY STRETCHING FROM FOUR CORNERS REGION...NE INTO THE
WESTERN DAKOTAS...WITH ANOTHER GOOD AREA OF LIFT ACROSS OK. LOW
CLOUDS WORKING THEIR WAY SLOWLY INTO NRN/NERN CWA WHERE TEMPS ARE
STILL IN THE MID 30S...WHILE THE REST OF THE AREA SOUTH OF THE
CLOUDS HAVE WARMED TO 40 OR THE LOW 40S WITH MID 40S EXTREME S.

SNOW EVENT STILL ON THE WAY...BUT STILL HARD TO PREDICT JUST WHERE
HEAVIEST SNOW WILL INTIMATELY FALL. WHEREAS 2 TO 3 DAYS AGO IT
LOOKED FAIRLY DRY...24 HRS AGO LOOKED NASTY AND WET...ESPECIALLY
SOUTH...NOW ETA HAS BACKED WAY OFF AGAIN WITH HIGHEST AMOUNTS FAR
W/NW. GFS CONTINUES MUCH STRONGER AND LONGER IN DURATION WITH
HIGHEST SNOW TOTALS S/SE. HPC HAS REVOLVED AREA OF HIGHEST SNOW
POTENTIAL AND AMOUNTS 180 DEG OR SO...STARTING SE YESTERDAY...MOVING
AROUND TO THE S AND SW OVERNIGHT TO NW OF CWA TODAY. NO 10 INCH
SWATHS TODAY THOUGH. ETA SNOW TOTAL NOW HAVE BETWEEN 1 AND 5
INCHES...GFS 4 TO 9 INCHES. UK MET SUPPORTS GFS WHILE CANADIAN
SUPPORTS ETA. GFS PUTS 3 TO 8 TENTHS QPF OVR AREA FROM N TO
S...WHILE ETA PAINTS IN ROUGHLY 2 TO 5 TENTHS WITH WETTEST AREAS OVR
NW AND SE CWA. WHAT TO DO...WHAT TO DO. STAYING THE COURSE FOR THE
MOST PART KEEPING ADVISORY WORDING WITH 3 TO 5 INCHES MENTIONED FOR
TOTALS EVERYWHERE BASED ON MY OWN WEIGHTED AVG BETWEEN HE MDLS AND
USING MDL SOUNDING TO TRY AND FIGURE JUST HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE TO
SATURATE FROM MID LVLS DOWN. LOOKS LIKE EARLY MORNING THRU MID
MORNING OR NOON EVENT FOR MOST PART...WITH HARDEST SNOW FALLING OVR
TRI CITIES AREA FROM AROUND SUNRISE ON...NOT GOOD FOR THE
WORK/SCHOOL BUNCH. EVENING/MID BUNCH CAN TIP ADVISORY ONE WAY OR
ANOTHER IF NEEDED. BEYOND...NO SIG SIGNIFICANT CHANGES THRU WED
NIGHT...JUST TWEAKING OF HI/LO TEMPS. NEXT SYSTEM DUE ON FRIDAY.

LONG TERM...ANOTHER WEAK WAVE MOVES ACROSS THE AREA ON THURSDAY.
THIS WILL BRING CLOUDS TO THE NORTHERN SECTIONS BUT MOST LIFT AND
POSSIBLE SNOW TO REMAIN TO THE NORTH. WILL BRING SOME CLOUDS TO THE
AREA BUT IT SHOULD STAY DRY.

NEXT WEATHER MAKER WILL MOVE INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS FRIDAY AND
SATURDAY AS UPPER LOW MOVES IN FROM THE NORTHWEST.  THIS WILL BRING
CHANCES FOR SNOW TO THE ENTIRE REGION.  DO NOT EXPECT IT TO BE A
MAJOR WEATHER MAKER BUT WILL BRING MAYBE AN INCH OR TWO DURING THESE
COUPLE OF DAYS.  WITH CLOUDY SKIES AND CHANCES FOR SNOW...TEMPS WILL
NOT GO FAR WITH DAYTIME READINGS STUCK IN THE 30S.

&&

.GID WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
NE...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY ALL NEBRASKA COUNTIES TONIGHT THROUGH
TUESDAY.
KS...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY ALL KANSAS COUNTIES TONIGHT THROUGH
TUESDAY.

&&

$$

10/KISNER

507
FXUS63 KLBF 082111
AFDLBF

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NORTH PLATTE NE
310 PM CST MON DEC 8 2003

...FORECAST CONCERN IS ON WINTER STORM TODAY AND TUESDAY AND AGAIN
IN THE EXTENDED...

.NEAR TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY...FORECAST FOCUS IN THE NEAR
TERM IS THE NEXT 24 HOURS. SNOW ONGOING ACROSS THE PANHANDLE AND
NORTH CENTRAL ZONES WHERE INITIAL SHORTWAVE ENTERED THE PICTURE
EARLIER THIS MORNING. WEAK DEFORMATION ZONE CONTINUES IN THESE AREAS
WITH DECENT MID LVL FRONTO BAND LINGERING INTO THE EVENING HOURS.
FOCUS FOR PRECIP INITIALLY SHIFTS EWD AS UPPR WAVE PULLS OUT OF THE
PANHANDLE INTO CENTRAL PORTIONS OF THE FA BY MID EVENING. GOOD LIFT
COMMENCES EWD WITH STRONG MID LEVEL FORCING NOTED THROUGH MIDNIGHT.
IN THE OVERNIGHT HOURS...AS UPPR LOW DIGS INTO OK..MID LVL FORCING
SHIFTS TO THE SRN AND ERN ZONES. MODELS HAD MANY DISAGREEMENTS THIS
AM WITH HANDLING OF THE MAX QPF BAND AND DEFORMATION ZONE. MODEL
DISCONTINUITY HAS WANED THIS AFTERNOON WITH THE BULK OF THE FA
PAINTED WITH 3 TO 6 INCHES BY MORNING. CONFIDENCE NOT STRONG ENOUGH
TO PULL THE TRIGGER ON A WARNING FOR NOW. SHOULD SEE SNOW TAPER OFF
TO FLURRIES AFTER MIDNIGHT IN THE WEST AND NORTHWEST...WITH SNOW
ENDING IN THE ERN ZONES BY MIDDAY TUESDAY. WILL KEEP ADVISORY GOING
THROUGH MID DAY TUESDAY FOR EXCESSIVE BLOWING AND DRIFTING OF SNOW
GIVEN 20 TO 30+ MPH NORTHERLY WINDS EXPECTED. WINDS WILL GRADUALLY
DIE OFF INTO THE OVERNIGHT HOURS AS SFC HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS INTO
THE REGION. BRIEF REPRIEVE ON WEDNESDAY...FOLLOWED BY ANOTHER WEAK
WAVE TRAVERSING THE NRN ZONES ON THURSDAY. WILL KEEP LOW POPS IN
ONGOING FCST.

.EXTENDED...FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY...PROGRESSIVE UPPR LVL PATTERN
CONTINUES AS FORECAST FOCUS SHIFTS TO SNOW POSSIBILITIES THIS
WEEKEND. ON FRIDAY...WEAK UPPER LEVEL TROF OF LOW PRESSURE PULLS OUT
OF THE CENTRAL ROCKIES INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS. WITH DECENT
BAROCLINIC ZONE IN PLACE (PER TIGHT H85 TEMP GRADIENT)...AND DECENT
RUN TO RUN CONTINUITY WITH THIS...THINK THIS WARRANTS MENTION FOR
LOW POPS FOR SNOW FRIDAY INTO SATURDAY. LOW POPS LINGER INTO SUNDAY
AS TROF AXIS JUST TO OUR WEST. WEAK RIDGING BUILDS INTO THE PLAINS
ON SUNDAY BETWEEN SYSTEMS BEFORE NEXT CLOSED LOW ARRIVES LATE ON
MONDAY.

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COORDINATED WITH UNR...FSD...OMA...GID AND GLD

.LBF WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY ALL ZONES...TONIGHT THROUGH MID DAY
TUESDAY...

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